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PostSubject: card of safe return   Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:21 pm

can card of safe return be use during damage step? jus making sure
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:52 pm

It has to be on the field first... and which card with reference are you talking about?
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:57 pm

card of safe return, jinzo returner get destroy by battle then revive jinzo ...can draw
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:26 pm

Yes. The trigger effect will be in the damage step. But you draw after the damage step because the effect can only be resolved after the damage step.
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:59 am

Can cuz Card of Safe Return is already on the field..
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:54 am

I just realised I was wrong... cosr cannot be used in the damage step... somewhat similar to royal oppression.
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:05 pm

Once again, Konami and UDE have different rulings with regards to this.



OCG ruling:
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Q:ダメージステップ中にモンスターを墓地から特殊召喚した場合、このカードの効果を使用できますか?
A:ダメージステップ中に発動することはできません。(08/09/11)
Taken from: 《生還の宝札》 -遊戯王カードWiki

Rough Translation:
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Q: In an event that a monster is special summoned from the grave during the Damage Step, can this card (Card of Safe Return) be activated?
A: This cannot be activated during the Damage Step. (11th Sept 08 )



TCG Ruling:
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Infernarl: Does one get to draw when a monster is special summoned from the graveyard in the damage step with Card of Safe Return?
Curtis Schultz: "Card of Safe Return's" optional Trigger Effect can be activated during the Damage Step. (20th Aug 08 )
Taken from: Yu-Gi-Oh! Rules (official judge list) >> Card of Safe Return + Damage step summons
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:46 pm

according to my knowledge[i may be wrong on this 1]

COSR and oppression cannot activate in dmg step


some other info.....
both can only activate once if 3 wulf sp summon at same time

1)eg:
have COSR
monster gate flip 3 wolf
wolf chain themselves chain 1,2,3
since COSR do not chain and cannot chain due to miss timing,the player can only draw 1 card form the last wolf sp summoned

2) eg:
have oppression
ryko flip 3 wolf
wolf chain themselves chain 1,2,3
since oppression do not chain and cannot chain due to miss timing,the player can only negate 1 wolf via oppression


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If the effect of "Royal Oppression" is activated, and "Mystical Space Typhoon" or "Dust Tornado" is chained to destroy "Royal Oppression", then the effect of "Royal Oppression" disappears because it is a Continuous Trap Card, and the Special Summon will not be negated.

some say can some cay cannot
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:50 pm

This is confusing?!?!?!
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:29 pm

Obviously oppression cannot negate opponent summon after it leaves the field because it does not have a graveyard effect.
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:33 pm

some ppl hate their 800 lp and only chance to win go to waste ma. so insist it works. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:33 pm

i doubt it works. because its the same as cosr.
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:20 pm

so is can or not?
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:38 am

In short, you will have to clarify with the Judge(s) on which ruling will be observed for the Tournament.

OCG: CoSR cannot be activated during Damage Step
TCG: CoSR can be used activated Damage Step


Last edited by Akira on Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:25 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Fixed Typo Errors)
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:41 am

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In short, you will have to clarify with the Judge(s) on which ruling will be observed for the Tournament.

OCG: CoSR cannot be activated during Damage Step
TCG: CoSR can be used activated Damage Step

sometimes is ask organiser , normally for card of safe return , we play yes ^^" .. thats what i encountering recently, just sharing my veiw
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:58 pm

So Oppression leh? Can use on Mystic Tomato?
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:03 am

Axehead wrote:
So Oppression leh? Can use on Mystic Tomato?

Nope.
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:17 pm

one more thing, if oppression cannot be use in damage step, how can card of safe return be use then??jus asking
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:20 pm

both cannot activate in dmg step la.

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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:36 pm

Oppression is a card you need to activate. As the usual, no cards except cards that affect atk/def and counter traps in damage step, therefore cannot activate oppression in damage step

For COSR, the typical ruling here in Singapore is that COSR is a card which TRIGGERS when there is a revival from your grave to your field. So no activation it just triggers, so damage step is no issue.
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PostSubject: Re: card of safe return   Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:28 pm

Oppression - something you need to pay cost to activate

(if the trap speed dont allow you to do so in "damage step",you cant loh ^^".. similar to the speed counter on 5D episodes..:p)

Card Of Safe Return - is something under the condition triggering.. doesnt really interfere whether the speed allow it to do so anot as long the condition are met. ^^"
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