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 Trance Archfiend Cost or not

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PostSubject: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:11 pm



So can anyone confirm if this card discard effect is cost or not?
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:27 pm

its a eff...

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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:34 am

the effect of discaarding can it be activated during damage step of you/your opp
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:51 am

Quote from wikia.
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Normal Trap Cards, Continuous Trap Cards, Quick-Play Spell Cards, and Quick Effect Monster Cards that alter the ATK and/or DEF of one or more monsters on the field ("Blast with Chain", "Rush Recklessly", "Castle Walls", "Reinforcements", "Shrink", "Honest"). The card must DIRECTLY affect ATK/DEF to be valid; you cannot activate Scapegoat during the Damage Step even if you control United We Stand, for example, because Scapegoat does not directly change the ATK/DEF on any monsters.
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:06 pm

Furthermore , i guess ignition effects can only be activated in mainphase?
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:21 pm

And you thought problem solving card text will reduce the amount of questions like this.

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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:53 pm

It's treated as an effect, the attack gain and discarding happens simultaneously. You can activate it's effect during the damage step, but only during your turn.
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:21 pm

shaunewbiez wrote:
It's treated as an effect, the attack gain and discarding happens simultaneously. You can activate it's effect during the damage step, but only during your turn.

In tis case, wat if i discard grapha during damage step?
1) Will grapha effect activate, then attack or attack then activate grapha effect?
2) Attack cont and grapha miss timing to activate effect?
3) If grapha effect do activate during the damage step, can opponent activate cards to counter it?
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend Cost or not   Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:06 am

U can't use ignition effect in battle phrase...
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