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PostSubject: gorz vs solemn warning   Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:55 pm

gorz is special summoned can i use solemn warning?
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:48 pm

Yes u can
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:37 am

yes as counter trap cards can activate during damage step

For example You cant bottomless it but can solemn judgement/warning it
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:45 am

Pentengon wrote:
gorz is special summoned can i use solemn warning?

Yes, you can. Solemn Warning can negate the effect of summoning (gorz).

Solemn Judgment is a counter trap, so its activation is allowed on Damage Step.
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:35 am

keithchen89 wrote:
yes as counter trap cards can activate during damage step

For example You cant bottomless it but can solemn judgement/warning it

u cant solemn judgement Gorz because gorz summons by effect.
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:29 am

Correct. An effect which summons a monster (or monsters) cannot be negated by Solemn Judgment.
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:32 am

Yoan.Yuki wrote:
Correct. An effect which summons a monster (or monsters) cannot be negated by Solemn Judgment.

Call of haunted can be negated by Solemn Judgement. Monster reborn can be negated by Solemn Judgement.
The Correct way to saying it is, Solemn Judgement can only negate summoning of monster from normal summon, flip summon or inherit special summon(which does not cause chain links e.g. cyber dragon, hyperion, judgement dragon).

In Solemn Warning's case, it just negates any summon/card activation for summoning at any point of time.

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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:13 am

To simplify it,

Judgment = "Basic" summons that uses the games basic summon engine, no "third party" card effect which helps the summoning involved.

Warning = Any effect that involves summoning.
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:04 am

To simplify even more:

Judgement = Cannot use

Warning = Can use
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:20 am

sorry for my mistake.
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* Gorz cannot be negated by S.Judgment because the summon of gorz is an effect, not a built-in summon.

* You can use S. Warning, because the effect of Gorz is an effect which summon monsters.

* Call of the Haunted and Monster reborn can be negated by both because:
1) Both are Spell/Trap cards - Can be negated by S. Judgment.
2) Both are cards which summon - Can be negated by S. Warning.
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SOME EXAMPLES
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Solemn Warning can negate the activation of effects which summon OR the summon itself.

Meklord Emperors, Meklord Astros, TG Striker, TG Warwolf, All Synchros, Mask Change, All Xyz, Ritual Summons, Gorz, Tragoedia, Battle Fader, Starlight Road.

WARNING CANNOT NEGATE: Effects which DOESN'T SUMMON when its activated.
a good example of this is "Valhalla, Hall of the Heaven" <- Its a card which summons, but it cannot summon when its activated.
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:55 pm

thx alot guys Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: gorz vs solemn warning   Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:02 am

Ouch sorry about incorrect ruling i gave
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