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Noobish LeOo0
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PostSubject: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:30 pm

if King Tiger Wanghu is face-up on the field, and as when i summon a gladiator beast with below 1400 original attack, so if i get to activate war chariot to negate King Tiger Wanghu's trigger effect?

(please assume that there is no other GB on my field)
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:40 pm

If i m not wrong, Can~
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:26 pm

Then if u synchro summon Armor Master, and it's the only monster on your field, and it gets hit by Oppression, can you chain Icarus? o.O
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:31 pm

egoboy wrote:
Then if u synchro summon Armor Master, and it's the only monster on your field, and it gets hit by Oppression, can you chain Icarus? o.O

For this, it's a definite NO. As the summon is being negated. Seems like a different case to king tiger vs gb chariot..

XiaoCola wrote:
If i m not wrong, Can~
but why leh? :S
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:10 am

Swallow Flip: Similar to "Pulling the Rug," “Swallow Flip” can be activated when the effect of a monster on the field activates due to a different monster being Special Summoned. For example, it can negate and destroy "King Tiger Wanghu” on the field, or “Cyber Dinosaur” when its effect activates from the hand.

Swallow Flip:
Negate the activation of an Effect Monster's effect that activates when a monster is Special Summoned (including itself), and destroy it.

Literally same kind of situation i think...so wanghu can be war chariot...
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:09 am

pokekid88 wrote:
Swallow Flip: Similar to "Pulling the Rug," “Swallow Flip” can be activated when the effect of a monster on the field activates due to a different monster being Special Summoned. For example, it can negate and destroy "King Tiger Wanghu” on the field, or “Cyber Dinosaur” when its effect activates from the hand.

Swallow Flip:
Negate the activation of an Effect Monster's effect that activates when a monster is Special Summoned (including itself), and destroy it.

Literally same kind of situation i think...so wanghu can be war chariot...

Hmm, i think you misread my question le ba..

Let me rephrase:
I know that King Tiger Wanghu's trigger effect can be negated by War Chariot. But i can only activate War Chariot when i have a face-up gladiator beast on the field. So as when i normal summon for example, Gladiator Beast Murmillo, it is being destroyed by Wanghu's effect immediately after summon.

I get to activate War Chariot as Gladiator Beast Murmillo is still face-up on the field?
OR
I can't activate War Chariot as Gladiator Beast Murmillo have already sent to the Graveyard?
OR
There is any other reason(s)?
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:24 pm

Noobish LeOo0 wrote:
I know that King Tiger Wanghu's trigger effect can be negated by War Chariot.

Noobish LeOo0 wrote:
So as when i normal summon for example, Gladiator Beast Murmillo, it is being destroyed by Wanghu's effect immediately after summon.

Since you know that King Tiger Wanghu's effect is a Trigger Effect, why would Gladiator Beast Murmillo be destroyed immediately? Trigger Effect uses the chain.

Relevant Link: http://sg-ygo.userboard.net/ruling-questions-and-card-translations-f4/wanghu-t1711.htm#25471
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:30 pm

Cause the ruling for exiled force vs king tiger confused me..
And i just a double confirm, just in case i play it wrongly.

Taken from wiki: If "King Tiger Wanghu" is on the field, and "Exiled Force" is Summoned, "King Tiger Wanghu"'s effect immediately activates. Since "Exiled Force" cannot be chained, "King Tiger Wanghu" will destroy "Exiled Force" before the turn player can Tribute "Exiled Force" using its effect.

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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:27 pm

because 1 is ignition effect and the other is a trigger effect?
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PostSubject: Re: king tiger wanghu vs war chariot   Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:06 am

waa this topic is hot,just remember that when a monster is summoned,if any effect is trigger then the turn player don have the priority to use ignition effect. for the chariot,u just need to have gb have field to active,when king tiger active its effect mean the monster is successfully summoned~the timing that royal oppression activate is b4 the monster reach the field,so stardust also cant negate royal oppression~
all this can found in wikia
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