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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:10 pm

Because suggesting cards that not everyone can obtain (and illegal) is weird.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:13 pm

Oh how nice of you to notice that 'one' cards out of several cards i suggested..
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:43 pm

Noobish LeOo0 wrote:
Oh how nice of you to notice that 'one' cards out of several cards i suggested..

ONE drop of poison still ruins the broth.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:15 pm

And i dont see how both of you contribute to this thread other than flaming yeah? What a nice contribution.. does this make you two as the 'poison'?
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:14 pm

Well, the thread belongs to me and I dont mind as long as they are talking sense .
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:19 am

beep.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:12 pm

Dun mind me of asking this dumb question but why do you run
Nova Summonerx2 And Shining Angelx1?
i mean you cannot even get anyt useful with them, maybe just holylight,wall?
Also, Whye not Nova Summonerx3 rather than the current ones?

-Dun mind me,Peace:D
(zero knowledge of this deck:X)
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:16 am

Well nova summoner is to bring out freya or orange of herald light out asap .

Freya adding +400 to Herald's defence ensures safety . Not many syncros can break through that defence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZRzUlq-BLE&feature=sub

Watch this vid . This one has Kei Kuwano (Japan ) using Nova Summoner to tkae out Freya during WCQ=)
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:05 am

Trying to brainstorm a nice Herald deck...
as i also forming this deck.

Few question:
(1) why need nova summoner to bring out orange of herald light asap?
(2) why put in pot of duality? As i think the objective of this deck is to being
out perfect declarer asap. Once you used pot of duality, then you have to
wait for one more turn.
(3) how do you win? By attacking?
(4) Respond to (3), if opponent have spirit reaper, marshmallon, tree born
frog, or other monsters that cant be destroyed by battle. how do you
counter? by using 1 raigeiki break?

Btw, you have try out your deck already?

ohoh, and i saw another player playing twilight declarer with playing cards like Djinn Cursenchanter of Rituals, Djinn Disserere of Rituals, Djinn Releaser of Rituals + sky scourge..

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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:11 am

1)to syncro next turn if possible.
2)pot of duality reaches for manju or ARA faster . Once your herald is out , ur next aim is to get dark mass production asap .
3)win by playing defensive and collecting enough monsters and hand to win ,.
4)use raigeki break =.=wth treeborn frog cant be destroyed by battle?

Yes more than 30 times +++
still is beta testing.

and dude you dont even know how to play this deck and u previously gave me shit suggestion .
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:21 am

hahas, shit suggestion? that's actually my deck.
Oh, i dont know how to play this deck aye? Yeah, probably as i'm pretty noob.
Probably you can inform me when you are joining any of tourney in sg, and you could probably have your first time losing to a shit deck and noob player. =)

And dude, you have not answer to question 4, assume you cant answer it? And i didnt wrote that tree born frog cant be destroyed by battle, try reading again or prove me wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:00 pm

Noobish LeOo0 wrote:
hahas, shit suggestion? that's actually my deck.
Oh, i dont know how to play this deck aye? Yeah, probably as i'm pretty noob.
Probably you can inform me when you are joining any of tourney in sg, and you could probably have your first time losing to a shit deck and noob player. =)

And dude, you have not answer to question 4, assume you cant answer it? And i didnt wrote that tree born frog cant be destroyed by battle, try reading again or prove me wrong.

I do have an answer for Question 4. =)

In case you haven't noticed, Herald of Orange Light is a LV2 Tuner. Tune it to another LV4 (Sonic Bird, Manju, Spirit of the Harp) and you can drop Brionac or Flamvell Uruquizas, which are quite solid answers.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:41 pm

i agree with chicken noodles,btw (this totally irrevalant),noodles were u the guy playing scrap deck and made to top8? In cardsmaster.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:04 pm

Nova summoner can search Honest as well which IS LIKE SUPER IMPORTANT DURING END GAME . Bounce it back to your hand .

I answered ur question 4.=.= Using raigeiki break =.=/
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:06 pm

Noobish LeOo0 wrote:
hahas, shit suggestion? that's actually my deck.
Oh, i dont know how to play this deck aye? Yeah, probably as i'm pretty noob.
Probably you can inform me when you are joining any of tourney in sg, and you could probably have your first time losing to a shit deck and noob player. =)

And dude, you have not answer to question 4, assume you cant answer it? And i didnt wrote that tree born frog cant be destroyed by battle, try reading again or prove me wrong.

And if you cant probably read .I am from Malaysia ding dong=.=

Suggesting a card that cant be used in tourney .Seriously .U made my day .Maybe your deck is some godly thing . I dont really care .I dont want to flame you in my thread because it is irrelevant .You win! I am so scared of losing to you ! Happy ? My deck sucks . I am a born loser .My herald is not perfect .Yours is !

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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:32 pm

ChickenNoodle wrote:

I do have an answer for Question 4. =)

In case you haven't noticed, Herald of Orange Light is a LV2 Tuner. Tune it to another LV4 (Sonic Bird, Manju, Spirit of the Harp) and you can drop Brionac or Flamvell Uruquizas, which are quite solid answers.
Yes, nice answer. But just needed to make sure you still have leftover fairy in your hand for you to discard ba..

andrewspectra wrote:
I dont want to flame you in my thread because it is irrelevant
And
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and dude you dont even know how to play this deck and u previously gave me shit suggestion .
Irony much? Shocked


Noobish LeOo0 wrote:
Probably you can inform me when you are joining any of tourney in sg
andrewspectra wrote:
And if you cant probably read .I am from Malaysia ding dong=.=
So who is the one who can't read? :O

andrewspectra wrote:
Suggesting a card that cant be used in tourney
Like i said before, Queen of fate just cant used in most official tourney. So if someone forming a frog deck and i suggest Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, which is not legal in most official toruney, to be placed in the deck, does that make your day too?? Rolling Eyes
If you wish to, you can list out 1 tourney that Queen of Fate is forbidden to play, and i can list out 10 tourneys which allows to play Queen of Fate.

And seriously, when i first posted my suggestion, my intention is to discuss declarer deck. Just learn to appreciate.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:41 pm

Alright thank you for your contribution .Love you .

I am blind . I am handicap . I am dumb .I am a noob

I take back all what I said .Happy ?

U win !

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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:53 pm

Noobish LeOo0 wrote:

Like i said before, Queen of fate just cant used in most official tourney. So if someone forming a frog deck and i suggest Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, which is not legal in most official toruney, to be placed in the deck, does that make your day too?? Rolling Eyes
If you wish to, you can list out 1 tourney that Queen of Fate is forbidden to play, and i can list out 10 tourneys which allows to play Queen of Fate.

lol!

I seriously do not want to flame anyone in this forum but, what u said seriously made me laugh. Here are some reasons to why I found your comment to be a joke. Firstly, Queen of Fate - Eternia's limitation text says "This card cannot be used in a duel", which simply means that it can NEVER be used in any touney, official or not. Second of all, Queen of Fate - Eternia is a card that you can only get if u had placed in the 2005 world's finals, or if u had bought it from someone who had won it, which I highly doubt that you had. So please, do not post such a ridiculous suggestion, ty. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:13 pm

the deck is fine bt mine hav no freya or any beatstick other than kystia,it runs smoothly though. Btw does Gb or herald stand a higher chance when dueling against each other?
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:42 pm

depends on hand cards . . . but i think gbeast have coz of all it effects herald nid to drop card to negate and gbeast have lots of tag effect
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:45 pm

gbeast stands a higher chance
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:55 pm

ic thanks 4 ur opinion
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:10 am

awesomehazelnuts wrote:
the deck is fine bt mine hav no freya or any beatstick other than kystia,it runs smoothly though. Btw does Gb or herald stand a higher chance when dueling against each other?

Errmm . GB . cause they have 3 Chariots ? Depends actually if you can open royal Decree first. If krystia is out there should not be a problem . I havent really tested out vs GB but I think thats about it . U gotta get freya out as soon as possible to prevent them from using the 3000 GB destroying ur perfect herald .
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:22 am

ok thanks i would take ur advice into account. Btw i hav mod my herald til like hero beat,haven actually tested. Uses miracle fusion on alius wif smokeball in grave into abzero or fuse shining via shining ball and alius. Its quite good in my opinion as the deck has both water and light element mobs. Y nt play common charity? Its pretty good. The alius is also like a beatstick though
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:28 am

awesomehazelnuts wrote:
ok thanks i would take ur advice into account. Btw i hav mod my herald til like hero beat,haven actually tested. Uses miracle fusion on alius wif smokeball in grave into abzero or fuse shining via shining ball and alius. Its quite good in my opinion as the deck has both water and light element mobs. Y nt play common charity? Its pretty good. The alius is also like a beatstick though

Just play whatever suits your style of playing .

If you are running herald , you should be focusing on herald . Playing miracle fusion and whatsoever , you're just running away from the whole point/aim of playing Herald .I dont know if you get what I mean .

Its like running Infernity cards in GB .somesort .
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:31 am

yea i know,4 fun =) will revert back after im done with it. Common charity is good i saw a guy using it
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:53 am

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i agree with chicken noodles,btw (this totally irrevalant),noodles were u the guy playing scrap deck and made to top8? In cardsmaster.

Sadly, no! All I did was scrub at my last two Khatib tournaments. Using Herald. =.=

So far, my best is 3rd place at the National Day tournament.

And seriously, we need to ban Rai-Oh. 10+ dollars to cripple my whole deck isn't funny. =X
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:00 am

Like that also need to ban System Down and Cyber Dragon for Machinas. 2 Dollars for CyDra and around 3-4 for System Down to wreck a deck also isn't really funny.

Same for DDV for Quickdraw Dandy.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:11 am

xxn00biexx wrote:
Like that also need to ban System Down and Cyber Dragon for Machinas. 2 Dollars for CyDra and around 3-4 for System Down to wreck a deck also isn't really funny.

Same for DDV for Quickdraw Dandy.

I was kidding about that one. =) But you have a great point.

Basically, we need ways (outs) to broken cards like Rai-Oh, if you want to succeed with Herald this format. Hero Beat, GBs, Blackwings. They can incorporate Rai-Oh without messing themselves up.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:16 am

ChickenNoodle wrote:
xxn00biexx wrote:
Like that also need to ban System Down and Cyber Dragon for Machinas. 2 Dollars for CyDra and around 3-4 for System Down to wreck a deck also isn't really funny.

Same for DDV for Quickdraw Dandy.

I was kidding about that one. =) But you have a great point.

Basically, we need ways (outs) to broken cards like Rai-Oh, if you want to succeed with Herald this format. Hero Beat, GBs, Blackwings. They can incorporate Rai-Oh without messing themselves up.
compulsory evacuation device, book of moon, raigeki break, karma cut, torrential tribute & the list goes on and on.
just pick one of it and your problem is solved?
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:17 am

Rai-Oh [censored by admin] Herald quite badly .Need raigeki break or smash ground
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:34 am

ZOMG YOU HAZ QUEEN OF FATE ? okok, in order to make this post not look like spam, i will give constructive comments. go for the 3 shineball/happylover and 3 cloud ball 3 dark factory build. allows for recovery as perfect herald fodder. you're also kinda able to control your graveyard for the landing of krystia. who you should be packing. krystia plus declarer= a pretty awesome lock. regarding win con, i guess you could just poke em to death with krystia. they cant land a b.fader or gorz neeways.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:51 am

i agree wif melon the original build of 3smoke and 3shining ball is still best as i play that build
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:05 pm

awesomehazelnuts wrote:
i agree wif melon the original build of 3smoke and 3shining ball is still best as i play that build

And that's the build I play. I personally find it the best too. Very focused, but it's hard to deal with a Rai-Oh and other Herald-hate without decent Main-Deck adaptations. =X
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:16 pm

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awesomehazelnuts wrote:
i agree wif melon the original build of 3smoke and 3shining ball is still best as i play that build

And that's the build I play. I personally find it the best too. Very focused, but it's hard to deal with a Rai-Oh and other Herald-hate without decent Main-Deck adaptations. =X
if you don't mind dragging the game longer by a few turns you could try soul taker and upstart goblin instead of pot of duality.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:48 pm

Lolzorx wrote:
ChickenNoodle wrote:
awesomehazelnuts wrote:
i agree wif melon the original build of 3smoke and 3shining ball is still best as i play that build

And that's the build I play. I personally find it the best too. Very focused, but it's hard to deal with a Rai-Oh and other Herald-hate without decent Main-Deck adaptations. =X
if you don't mind dragging the game longer by a few turns you could try soul taker and upstart goblin instead of pot of duality.

Well, the problem is, I don't even play Pot of Duality. =)
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:16 pm

duality in herald a bit dead. 3preparation of rites sounds good ==
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:37 pm

awesomehazelnuts wrote:
duality in herald a bit dead. 3preparation of rites sounds good ==

Yep. 3 Preparation of Rites is staple. To me that is.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:36 pm

same here. Set a advance art and let opponent blow it,next turn preparation and krstya full force,he keeps deck
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:56 pm

duality rocks .It is how you look at it
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:41 am

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awesomehazelnuts wrote:
duality in herald a bit dead. 3preparation of rites sounds good ==

Yep. 3 Preparation of Rites is staple. To me that is.

duality is never a dead card. never. LOL. lets put it this way, what if you don't draw the cards you want? oh no! duality is a good filter, kinda helps you out in times of need. and regarding raiou, its more of a matter of who lands what 1st. i mean, if he manages to get raiou out before you even start searching, then good luck to you. but if do manage to land declarer 1st, then you should be pretty safe, imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:08 am

once u duality u cant sp summon,u call that good? Next turn the declarer out ppl dust shoot or mind crush already.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:03 pm

It is not a MUST use card whenever you have it in your hand.

If you can special summon this turn, obviously you wont use it.

If you have nothing to do, then pot till you can get the cards you need.

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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:07 pm

yeah but manju and sonic bird r good enought for the searching part. duality a bit redundant it's better in other decks
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:04 pm

Actually Duality is not reali that good when u think of it , ya u gain hand advantage but seriously NO u got -1 and + 1 and maybe the top 3 card will mess up ur whole match. . . I think Raioh is btr coz raioh can stop duality and is a 1900 atk beatstick ... and Raioh is cheaper . . . Back to topic manju and sonic bird is a stable to herald deck becuz herald deck need searchers
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:10 pm

please,duality is very good but it isnt good in this deck. duality can help u do a lot of stunt kid,please try make sense. ppl all using this,and duality is people's money maker
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:20 pm

Duh it's obvious Manju/Senju/Sonic bird is somewhat a staple in this deck so please stop recommending and stating how awesome it is coz it's not like it didn't enter the mind of the deck builder that is building a RITUAL BASED DECK.

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I think Raioh is btr coz raioh can stop duality and is a 1900 atk beatstick ... and Raioh is cheaper . . .
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becuz herald deck need searchers
I Heard Raioh also stops manju/senju. Pot is a searcher. And if you see your next 3 card is all yellow skin, you will feel good now that you have given yourself a chance to shuffle them away instead of drawing them.

Btw I hate this deck, so.... DIAF Andrew! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:39 pm

Duality is good to fix up the bad hands that you get about 50% of the time.
When your hand isn't a first turn herald, Duality could very well just help you reach an ARA or Sonic bird or Preparation OR manju.
Not to mention Duality is also good in mid game to dig for Factory/Kristya/Avarice and stuff.

awesomehazelnuts wrote:
yeah but manju and sonic bird r good enought for the searching part. duality a bit redundant it's better in other decks
No they aren't enough. Heralds aren't consistent ENOUGH without duality. I have played Herald a few times, and it can draw terrible, totally unplayable hands.

awesomehazelnuts wrote:
once u duality u cant sp summon,u call that good? Next turn the declarer out ppl dust shoot or mind crush already.

Once you don't have a good/playable hand to get declarer out, you call that good? Very Happy At least with Duality, you can get declarer out the next turn.
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PostSubject: Re: Herald Of Perfection .(Edited)   Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:11 pm

bahamut84 wrote:
Duh it's obvious Manju/Senju/Sonic bird is somewhat a staple in this deck so please stop recommending and stating how awesome it is coz it's not like it didn't enter the mind of the deck builder that is building a RITUAL BASED DECK.

Quote :
I think Raioh is btr coz raioh can stop duality and is a 1900 atk beatstick ... and Raioh is cheaper . . .
Look bottom quote for epic deck synergy.

Quote :
becuz herald deck need searchers
I Heard Raioh also stops manju/senju. Pot is a searcher. And if you see your next 3 card is all yellow skin, you will feel good now that you have given yourself a chance to shuffle them away instead of drawing them.

Btw I hate this deck, so.... DIAF Andrew! Very Happy

I know why! Cause u hate it ever since u met with that dude using herald during nationals this year
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