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PostSubject: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:05 am

Lets Take Into Consideration of:
Super Rejuvenation

Quickplay Spell

Effect : During the End Phase of the turn this card is activated, draw 1 card from your Deck for each Dragon-Type monster discarded from your hand and/or Tributed during this turn.


1) It Is My End Phase Now,
i have 7cards in hand, out of the 7,1 is Super Rejuvenation and 1 is a bewd.
can i :
A)Drop BEWD(cos hand exceed 6 rule*)>open Super Rejuvenation and draw?
B)open Super Rejuvenation and cannot dump the bewd.



QUESTION 2.
if i activated 2x Super Rejuvenation and then i end my turn while discarding 5dragons,how many i draw?
-got people sae 5(COS Super Rejuvenation only 1 effect activated)
-got people sae 10


*hand exceed 6 rule i meant is end phase can only have 6 cards in hand that 1.


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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:34 am

XiaoCola wrote:
Lets Take Into Consideration of:
Super Rejuvenation

Quickplay Spell

Effect : During the End Phase of the turn this card is activated, draw 1 card from your Deck for each Dragon-Type monster discarded from your hand and/or Tributed during this turn.


1) It Is My End Phrase Now,
i have 7cards in hand, out of the 7,1 is Super Rejuvenation and 1 is a bewd.
can i :
A)Drop BEWD(cos hand exceed 6 rule*)>open Super Rejuvenation and draw?
B)open Super Rejuvenation and cannot dump the bewd.


*hand exceed 6 rule i meant is end phrase can only have 6 cards in hand that 1.

i dont think it can be done..its the discard part is a part whr no one can does anything..becoz its due to rule..unless is other way of discarding..den euu can chain to bewd..
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:27 pm

Discarding from hand due to hand size limit is the LAST THING to happen during end phase.
so Super Rejuvenation can't be activated after you discard for hand size. other wise super rejuv is broken as hell.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:56 pm

you cannot drop the bewd and then chain Super Rejuvenation. like what bannified said, discarding is the last thing to happen during end phase. however, it is still extremely vague as to what cards/steps are involved in the end phase. so it may be revised in the future.

anyway for your interest, can read up here. http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=843300&highlight=Super+Rejuvenation
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:01 pm

What Did You meant By Revised in the future?
So It will be the last thing in chain ah?
Then next important question is, will this be played this way at Worlds?
Or will they, or should i say HE have a Special Ruling?

Is there any Official Ruling/ Page to Ask?
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:16 pm

that one you have to ask him already. i dont how he will rule. anyway the HK judge team will be coming. so can ask them also.

revised in future means, because end phase is still unclear of the break down, unlike damage step so define. so maybe in future there may be clearer rulings in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:11 am

Suggest you post in the official Konami forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:36 am

We do not know how the faggot will rule this card, since obviously we have no interest to know how he does things anyway.

However, there is nothing confusing about end phase. End phase is just the very last thing that happens is the hand discard if you have more then 6, and being the very last thing means you cant chain anything after that. Its something like standby phase, where its a phase usually nothing much happens, except theres an extra check hand bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:41 pm

BUMP, new question, question number 2
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:45 pm

you can only activate effect of 1. they dont stack.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:53 pm

Refer yourself - http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Super_Rejuvenation
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:01 pm

different answers?
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:20 pm

they stack. sorry, my bad. =p
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:27 pm

dragon exodia is strong cuz of this ruling.

Very Happy

and side note : its end Phase not Phrase.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:45 pm

bannified wrote:


and side note : its end Phase not Phrase.

sorry, got toooooo used to it.
phrase/phase.
who cares.
you get the idea.ok le:D
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:46 pm

so is draw how many times
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:19 am

bannified wrote:
Discarding from hand due to hand size limit is the LAST THING to happen during end phase.
so Super Rejuvenation can't be activated after you discard for hand size. other wise super rejuv is broken as hell.

You declare end phrase, discard till your hand size limit, then proceed to play your Quick-play spells...
thats how it's done...!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:27 am

If the Turn Player has seven or more cards in his hand at this time, he/she must discard to the Graveyard cards until they have only six cards in their hand. This action is the very last thing to happen in any End Phase.-extracted from wikia

super rejuvenation occurs during the end phase of the turn so isnt the discarding the last thing to happen, as when you discard it means its the exchange of turn that is going to happen next
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:52 am

Lolzorx wrote:
If the Turn Player has seven or more cards in his hand at this time, he/she must discard to the Graveyard cards until they have only six cards in their hand. This action is the very last thing to happen in any End Phase.-extracted from wikia

super rejuvenation occurs during the end phase of the turn so isnt the discarding the last thing to happen, as when you discard it means its the exchange of turn that is going to happen next

Alright, just to prove that i'm correct... i took the initiative to look for an evidence..!!
Quote from Wikia: "if you discard Dragon-Type monsters for hand size limit during the End Phase and it is possible for you to apply the effect of "Super Rejuvenation", then you can draw cards."

Source : http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Super_Rejuvenation

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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:59 am

If you have already applied the effect of "Super Rejuvenation" during this End Phase and then you discard cards for hand size limit, then you cannot draw more cards for "Super Rejuvenation", even if you discarded Dragon-Type monster.

from what you quoted from wikia it only applies when super rejuvenation isnt being activated yet, the super rejuvenation effect activates after the player discards for the hand size limit and then the player activates super rejuvenation's effect
+from what you quoted it only applies for players that have exceeded the hand size limit and he/she decides to discard before activating his/her super rejuvenation tat is being used

you can't activate a new super rejuvenation that you've drawn after discarding due to hand size limit is the last thing to happen during the end phase
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:06 am

Lolzorx wrote:
If you have already applied the effect of "Super Rejuvenation" during this End Phase and then you discard cards for hand size limit, then you cannot draw more cards for "Super Rejuvenation", even if you discarded Dragon-Type monster.
from what you quoted from wikia it only applies when super rejuvenation isnt being activated yet, the super rejuvenation effect activates after the player discards for the hand size limit and then the player activates super rejuvenation's effect

Yeah la...
... thats what he's asking isn't it...!?

So, you discard till hand-size limit, then play S.rejuvenation... you get to draw extra.
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:12 am

YOU MUST activate super rejuvenation before discarding if your hand doesnt exceeds the limit of 6 at the end phase, what he is asking is OPENING/USING A NEW SUPER REJUVENATION FROM HAND AFTER HE DISCARDS
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PostSubject: Re: Super Rejuvenation During End Phase(NEW QUESTION,Q2)   Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:26 am

Lolzorx wrote:
YOU MUST activate super rejuvenation before discarding if your hand doesnt exceeds the limit of 6 at the end phase, what he is asking is OPENING/USING A NEW SUPER REJUVENATION FROM HAND AFTER HE DISCARDS

~~ *Went back and re-read*
Alright, i failed... =.="
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