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PostSubject: gladial beast following new banlist   Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:34 pm

Adjusted to new banlist.
Monsters (15)
1 Gladiator Beast Murmillo
1 Gladiator Beast Darius
1 Gladiator Beast Bestiari
2 Gladiator Beast Laquari
2 Gladiator Beast Samnite
2 Gladiator Beast Esquite
1 Rescue Cat
2 X-Saber Airbellun
3 Test Tiger


Magic (11)
1 Heavy Storm
1 Cold wave
1 Smashing Ground
3 Book of Moon
3 Gladiator Proving Ground
1 Giant trunade
1 Brain control

Traps (13)
3 Dark Bribe
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Mirror Force
2 Gladial Beast War Chariot
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Call of haunted
2 waboku

need help. as we can see lightlord are coming back,should i put
1)dimensional fissure
2)ancient forest
3)prisma
4)d.d crow
5)breaker?
6)d d warrior

i feel i am lacking of monster cause with the release of 3 fissure,GB will end up being gang bang by LS.
help pls


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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:26 pm

remove all 3 King Tiger Wanghu, hop and 1 laq.

add prisma. 2 and a reinforcement.

add 2 summon priest if can.

3 test tiger.

if really need. add wabouku.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:33 pm

i thought kiger tiger wangfu is important =.=
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:18 pm

yes king tiger is important,but not in ur build. ur build is rescue gladiators, not anti meta gladiators, so remove the wanghus other than that, i belive ur monster build is rather perfect.

spell wise, remove the cold waves add in shirink instead.
can try playing 2 gladiator beast proving ground too

trap wise,if u wan play xiong xiong build, play 3xdark bribe and 3x dimensional prison, remove torrential,mirror force,trapdustshot and 1x bottomless traphole.
however, if ur playing budget build, u can simply play 2x waboku,3x war chariots,and 2x threatening roar,remove torrential,mirrofroece,and 1x bottomless
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:40 pm

oh tq. cold wave kills bf deck.as far as i know.=)bf decks usually have more traps than spells
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:14 am

apparently,bf has an equal amt of traps and spells, some of e traps to mention are 2icarus atks, 1x mirror force,1x torrential,3x anti delta etc etc

and spells are jet black whirl winds,allures,dark eruptions etcetc.

however,cold wave does not kill black feathers.yes, cold waves stalls bf from gtting the cards they want by freeing allure and jet black whirlwind, but bf focuses more on monsters. so if u want to kill black feathers,add intraps/spells that limit their summoning. this way, they cant swarm with tire blast lances, gales and shura cnnt pull out. a good example is summon limit.

just a few tips on the feathers:

1)like i mentioned above, they focus on monsters. they basically beat u down with overwhelming atks. a good example would be the 2 synchros, arms wing and armored wing. arms wing drags ur def positions monsters to hell with an opverwhelming 2800 trample. as u kno. gladiator beasts have very weak defenses other than hoplomus, so u WILL take alot of dmg. so waboku plays a very important role against both arms wing and armored wing. u can just randomly use any gladial beast to atk, den activate waboku,and tag out for murmillo,destroying thier syncs. yes, murmillo has very low atk and def. so simply count on ur traps/spells to stall them den next turn tag out for a stronger gb like laquari

2)black feather NEEDS normal summons.witot thier normal summons,they are practically dead. witot thier normal summons, they cant swarm thie gales and lances,witot thier normal summons, htey cant search thier gales/qalut with jet black whirlwind, so sidedecking those bottomless is a must.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:20 am

DUDE. i am currently using bf deck =.='' i noe how counter.neeways thanks for writing an essay LOL.do i need prisma ?
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:23 am

oh haha.i tot u wante to counter it =.= um. nope prisma is not needed =)
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:13 pm

Eh, Cold Wave and Airbellun is not Forest friendly.

Though using Cold Wave to disable Forest to make Airbellun useless is besides the point. But anyway, IMO these should be removed for more protection like Dark Bribe as you'd want to protect your namesake card.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:18 pm

hmmmmm..dark bribe in gb. sounds bit more to anti meta d. i really like cold wave though.wads IMO
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:55 am

andrewspectra wrote:
hmmmmm..dark bribe in gb. sounds bit more to anti meta d. i really like cold wave though.wads IMO

IMO = In my opinion.

So yeah, Bribe is GB is okay, cause got Gyzarus/Equeste/Cat to balance up the lost advantage.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:12 pm

tis one I play b4. quite gd la. my idea lo.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:35 pm

zzz wrote:
tis one I play b4. quite gd la. my idea lo.

ZZZ.
In This World, dun claim ideas that arent yours.
DO you know, the people behind konami by an actual fact are the deck thinkers?
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:33 pm

Sorry for this double post.
Airbellum not forest friendly.
Attack and die.
if come out by the kitty, it will die even before end phrase,
defeats the purpose....

Wanghu oso not good in forest.

Oso.
IMO, shld put shrink and waboku instead of cold wave
This way, opp attack u, u can still have chances to tag out and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:56 pm

king tiger wangfu prevents lots of stuff like kitty and gale.when ancient forest in play why not just let gb do the attacking while KTW pose around.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:48 pm

Oo.
okae. i get it.
but for king tiger wang hu, can block kitty meh?
i tot kitty use prority, go graveyard, the KTW effect come in , then kitty search?
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:08 am

XiaoCola wrote:
Oo.
okae. i get it.
but for king tiger wang hu, can block kitty meh?
i tot kitty use prority, go graveyard, the KTW effect come in , then kitty search?

Wonderful. Yes, priority. Check rulings again.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:35 am

i thought king tiger wangfu effect resolve first ? kitty get destroyed wad.correct me if i 'm wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:46 am

andrewspectra wrote:
i thought king tiger wangfu effect resolve first ? kitty get destroyed wad.correct me if i 'm wrong.

Rescue Cat can be stopped by King Tiger Wanghu. I googled "rescue cat vs king tiger wanghu" to find out. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:31 pm

Oo.
Sorry then.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:04 am

wanghu treated as passive effect. so no need declare player pirority. sure die. i dont like wanghu bec it can also kill the fishie and secutor which i play.

u play forest means playing a "only" GB line up, which i think is nt really good, the GB family is nt really big nw.stardust can make mince forest btw.

try playing secutor. use bk of moon, wabouku, etc to protect. then u have a "portal" monster since secutor doesnt return to deck.

3 test tiger is useful esp since u rescue cat liao.


if at the end of all these still got space. add some POA.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:24 am

jadow wrote:
wanghu treated as passive effect. so no need declare player pirority. sure die. i dont like wanghu bec it can also kill the fishie and secutor which i play.

u play forest means playing a "only" GB line up, which i think is nt really good, the GB family is nt really big nw.stardust can make mince forest btw.

try playing secutor. use bk of moon, wabouku, etc to protect. then u have a "portal" monster since secutor doesnt return to deck.

3 test tiger is useful esp since u rescue cat liao.


if at the end of all these still got space. add some POA.

THANK YOU .u made sense into my head now .
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:10 pm

bump.so sad my bf deck so hard to play d
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:21 pm

in addition to waboku and BOM to protect secutor, i play curse of anubis as tech... not bad leh... take dmg if u use on opponents turn but without dark dive around can take some... makes secutor alot more reliable IMO

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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:37 pm

Triple Fissure FTW.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:23 pm

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Triple Fissure FTW.

yeah for u but not for gb players
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:29 pm

lol.... to beat LL. add crows. mind crush and side mirrors.

expand yr trap line up to include more

try removing coldwave and the abels.<- nt really useful nw.

add shrink to fight honest.

the key to gb is to fully use the trap and magic line up. yr monster lines nt as wow as LR, thing is u can toolbox with jus 1. lightlord need wait until charge and can only toolbx 1ce ea. tahts the main diff.

3x fissure is fun. u remove LR monster without engaging them in battle is without thought the best.always save a fissure for the final judmgent dragon.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:31 pm

whats abels? toolbox?
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:06 pm

andrewspectra wrote:
Axehead wrote:
Triple Fissure FTW.

yeah for u but not for gb players

No, it clears the path for a GB direct attack into a tag and then more rape.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:12 pm

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andrewspectra wrote:
Axehead wrote:
Triple Fissure FTW.

yeah for u but not for gb players

No, it clears the path for a GB direct attack into a tag and then more rape.

fissure if versus honest/qualat decks
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:29 pm

monsters are getting a few dont u guys agree? should i put ddwarrior like the jap world champion 2008?i am scared drawing a hand full of magics and traps.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:52 pm

y nt. 1 monster enuf. + magic and trap doesnt warrent yr death. aka proving ground. so yr monster number isnt that bad.

bottomless trapdustshoot and mindcrush still can keep yr opponent at bad ah.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:54 pm

add big arse?the rhino.
not a bad monster
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:55 pm

winged rhino. damn cute sia.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:56 pm

andrewspectra wrote:
monsters are getting a few dont u guys agree? should i put ddwarrior like the jap world champion 2008?i am scared drawing a hand full of magics and traps.

It's nothing bad if the magic and traps help you stall till you draw into your monsters. But most of the time it's shuffling.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:57 pm

jadow wrote:
winged rhino. damn cute sia.


no larh.
hopa-LOL-must.
his name alr suggest must put him.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:52 pm

set hopp= chariot wont work. i think 1 enuf. for mirror matches
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:02 pm

jadow wrote:
set hopp= chariot wont work. i think 1 enuf. for mirror matches

Actually can loh. People whack, flip face up, damage step do anything funny with Honest or Qualat just chariot! Or if D.D Warrior 'at 3' Lady attacks, can just chariot and send your middle finger in his face.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:48 am

lol. what i more hum abt is u set chariot and hopp. opponent do something funny like raiko , rescue, soceror etc. basically things that remove monsters
be4 battle.

this is esp since ppl r gging to meet raiza and caicus more often. nt to 4get judgement.
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PostSubject: Re: gladial beast following new banlist   Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:27 pm

tested out the deck. hoplumus is not good against GB but good against BF=) I reduce one x-airbellun and one test tiger due to the limit of rescue kitty.i took out dark bribe and replace with the' bandits tools something' . i added 2, CED ,2 fissure and trap stun.=) overall, i feel Black feathers are still dominating the meta .
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