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Isis.A.R.Ishtar
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PostSubject: What can i do to make it better   Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:32 am

Name of deck: OutGame Burn Deck

Total Cards: 43

Total Monster Cards:22

name of card

Arcana Force 0 - The Fool - 2
Necroface - 2
D.D. Warrior 3
D.D. Scout Plane - 3
Caius the Shadow Monarch - 2
Helios - The Primordial Sun - 2
Helios - Duo Megistus - 1
Helios - Trice Megistus - 1
Golden Homunculus - 2
Crystal Seer - 1
Marshmallon - 1
Spirit Reaper - 1
Morphing Jar - 1
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Total Magic Cards:10

name of card

Soul Release - 2
Dimensional Fissure - 3
Lightning Vortex - 2
Shrink - 2
Gold Sarcophagus - 1
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Total Trap Cards:11

name of card

Macro Cosmos - 3
Sakuretsu Armor - 3
Solemn Judgment - 3
Mirror Force - 1
Torrential Tribute - 1
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Total side deck:15

name of card

Crush Card Virus - 1
Interdimensional Matter Transporter - 2
Book of Moon - 2
Creature Swap - 2
Shield Crush - 1
Black Horn of Heaven - 1
Negate Attack - 1
Needle Worm - 3
D.D. Survivor - 2


for some who been to the Duelist Showdown Tournament that have seen this deck in play pls tell me what can i do to make it better?


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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:31 pm

u wanna make it BATTER?

use a batter on yr cards
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:35 pm

remove sakuretsu, add 3 bottemless trap hole.
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:19 pm

Outgame I noticed, but where's the burn?
Why are there 4x Creature Swaps in your side-deck?
No Giant Trunade or Mystical Space Typhoon?
Can the 2x The Fool really tank well?
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:01 am

lingbu wrote:
u wanna make it BATTER?

use a batter on yr cards

LOL! BATTER....

Obviously she meant better...
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:48 am

asakura_y wrote:
Outgame I noticed, but where's the burn?
Why are there 4x Creature Swaps in your side-deck?
No Giant Trunade or Mystical Space Typhoon?
Can the 2x The Fool really tank well?

sorry not 4 x Creature Swaps is 2 x D.D. Survivor just change it.

the Burn part is in
Gold Sarcophagus
Necroface
Needle Worm

Use Gold Sarcophagus to put Necroface out of game to burn the deck of both players, if there is Dimensional Fissure or Macro Cosmos on you can let Necroface out of game again, if Necroface is on, play Interdimensional Matter Transporter to remove it out of game again. and i can play Golden Homunculus and to add the atk of my out game card each by 300. At the Duelist Showdown Tournament i have it's atk @ 7500.
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:08 am

So burn in this sense means deck burn, AKA mill?
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:26 am

yes
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:40 pm

I thought that you meant burn as in LP damage...
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:42 pm

ya me too
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:02 pm

not a good deck,cant survive in major tournament...not to mention but have u ever seen other than META deck survive in major event such as regionals and shonen jump in europe or in japan...juz throw it away or make new competitive deck
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:17 am

B4h4MutZr3o wrote:
not a good deck,cant survive in major tournament...not to mention but have u ever seen other than META deck survive in major event such as regionals and shonen jump in europe or in japan...juz throw it away or make new competitive deck

You are so mean, but it doesn't erase the fact that you're most probably a netdecker. Even though this deck may not rate 10/10, I give her 10/10 for creativity and being able to think of such a combo.
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:39 am

Hmmm,you could try:

Monsters
- 2 Fools
-2 Helios - The Primordial Sun
-1 Helios - Duo Megistus
-1 Helios - Trice Megistus
-2 Golden Homunculus ( Note: if this works for you then its ok : ) )
-3 D.D. Warrior
Spells:


- 2 Soul release
-1 Lightning vortex ( 1 is enough, i know u can discard D.D.Scout plane to use effect but yea. )
- 2 Shrink ( More for a Beatdown deck and not for burn )


Traps:

- 3 Sak armour

So whats left will be ( assuming this advice does get followed )

Monster : Spell : Trap
11: 6 8= 25 ( need 15 + cards)


Monsters:

Note: < > will mean Optional

< +> 2 to 3 Morphing jar 2 ( Hard to get , but worth considering)
< + > 2 to 3 Des Lacood ( a slower paced Draw engine, but still works, worth consideration.)

+ 2 to 3 Needle worm (fits the theme ^^ )
+ 1 Crystal seer ( adds cards to hand lol )
+ 2 to 3 D.D. Survivor ( incase Burn doesn't work, you can switch to Beatdown in the middle of the Duel ^^ )


Total: not counting < > and asuming suggested cards are maxed out
= 18 ( More room for Spells ^^ )

Spells:

< + >2 Allure of darkness ( OPTIONAL and may or may not help you , but probably help due to multiple DARK Targets, D.D. Scouty Plane : ) )

+ 2 Book of moon ( Worth maining cuz its a book, Burn cards and stall cards need something to read while they are Burning/Stalling : )

+ the 2 GroundBreaking( Pun intended) Removal cards ( Fissure and Smashing ground )

+ 1 MST ( S/T removal is equally important //hint,hint// Icarus Attack // hint hint// set this card // hint hint // maybe // hint hint//

+ 1 Swords of Revealing light ( Stall )

+ 2 to3 preferably 3 Wave motion cannon ( over time, with enough stall,will be pretty awesomessssss )

Spells now ( not including < > , assuming all suggestions are maxed out) =14

current total ( 18+14+8=40 just nice ^^)

Traps , i REALLY want to add in so much more but im a 40 cards person so Here are some cards that must be considered:

2 Threathening roars
2 to 3 Bottomless
1 Ceasefire
1 Magical cylinder

Been a long time since i seen or fixed a D.D. Deck, Hope i still got the skill to help : )
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:44 pm

I agree that must use Threatening Roars ... MUST it is always in my side decks in matter useful or not... Somehow it will help in one way or another... Throw away magic cylinder please... USELESS card... Bottomless must max...
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:18 pm

Put in "Professor Oak". It allows you to discard your whole hand to draw 7 cards.
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PostSubject: Re: What can i do to make it better   Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:23 pm

IMO,
This are very slow.
Helios - The Primordial Sun - 2
Helios - Duo Megistus - 1
Helios - Trice Megistus - 1
Golden Homunculus - 2
Crystal Seer - 1
Should Change to monarch or stuff.
Cos they easily bottomless targets.(except seer)
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