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 Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat

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asakura_y
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PostSubject: Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat   Sun May 17, 2009 2:43 pm

Hi guys.
I was reading through kyoju's SGDuelists weblog and came across this situation:

Kyoju had a face-up Rai-Oh on his field.
Opponent released Rescue Cat for effect and special summoned Sea Koala and X-Saber Airbellum.
Sea Koala effect reduced Rai-Oh's attack to zero and X-Saber destroyed Rai-Oh through battle.
Opponent then synchro summoned Natural Beast with X-Saber Airbellum and Sea Koala.

I was thinking, is it possible for Rai-Oh to activate its special summon negating effect after Rescue Cat was released to special summon X-Saber Airbellum and Sea Koala? Doing so would have prevented the consequence of Rai-Oh being battle-destroyed as well as the subsequent synchro summon of Natural Beast for field control.

Comments please. Thanks in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat   Sun May 17, 2009 2:54 pm

I think it is possible.

""Thunder King Rai-Oh" negates Special Summons the same way that "Solemn Judgment", "Horn of Heaven", and "Black Horn of Heaven" negate Special Summons. You can only use the effect against a Special Summon which does not use a Chain Link. You cannot use the effect when a monster is Special Summoned during the resolution of another card"

Source: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Thunder_King_Rai-Oh
Actual source of that ruling (in japanese): http://yugioh.faq.konami.jp/EokpControl?&lang=en&tid=40755&event=FE0006
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PostSubject: Re: Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat   Sun May 17, 2009 4:04 pm

X-Saber Airbelium and Sea Koala was special summoned by the effect of rescue cat. It is the same as early burial being used to special summoned a monster. You must solemn the rescue or early burial. You cannot solemn the monsters being special summoned.

Hence, Raiou cannot be used to negate the special summoning of the X-Saber Airbelium and Sea Koala.

BTW, it was me who summoned the X-Saber Airbelium and Sea Koala. LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat   Sun May 17, 2009 7:21 pm

However, Oppression can negate Rescue Cat's effect, because it says that it "negates the effect of a card that Special Summons a monster and destroy it"
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PostSubject: Re: Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat   Sun May 17, 2009 7:50 pm

btw , it was me whom summoned the Raiou , not kyoju
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PostSubject: Re: Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat   Sun May 17, 2009 9:03 pm

Sazabi wrote:
btw , it was me whom summoned the Raiou , not kyoju

it's the same, raiou's effect cannot negate a special summon which require u to cause a chain, by negating

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PostSubject: Re: Thunder King Rai-Oh vs. Rescue Cat   Sun May 17, 2009 11:16 pm

Wow! Surprisingly, the protagonists of the scenario replied in the post. I'm honoured, really! Thanks for the explanations, guys. Smile
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